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5 years 4 months ago #6832 by AZRVR
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Who all is planning to go? If it's still on and I finish a few things on the rover I would like to go. The weather forecast looks wet, which = mud = fun <!-- s:ahhh: --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_ahhh.gif" alt=":ahhh:" title="ahhh" /><!-- s:ahhh: -->

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5 years 4 months ago #6833 by Red October
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I have a friend from work that's gonna go also. It's a scenic trip, with lots of side trails that I have yet to explore. The first time we saw coyotes, deer and a huge elk herd.

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5 years 4 months ago #6834 by LeBlanc
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I will yet again have to miss this one.. I have a Board Meeting for my neighborhood Irrigation District this Saturday... ugh..

Pierre LeBlanc
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5 years 4 months ago #6835 by RovnAZ
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Don't know yet if I can make it. Debbie and I have a function to attend that might be rescheduled.

Fingers crossed that it does rain. This is a great mud trail....long and sloppy across ranch land. Not quite the same fun when its dry.

Rob

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1997 Tahoe
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5 years 4 months ago #6838 by DirkV
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Hi Mateo and all, I hope to make this one.
Wondering about a few details:
* Confirming start at 9 a.m. I assume that's at or near the trailhead?
* I was checking my AZ Backcountry Adventures book, which specifies Cedar Flats as a short (10 mi), ez trail. But the lookout tower and 45 miles indicate that we'll be probably ending at hiway 3 (coming back to Phx on 87). Correct?
* Anybody thinking about camping Sat night?
Hope to see you,
-Dirk

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5 years 4 months ago #6839 by Red October
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I don't plan to camp, but am happy to help you find a place to.

Meeting at the Cheveron at the Carefree hwy and I17 at 0900 and will roll out 0930.

Everytime we go, the tower has been closed. But it ends at the Stoneman Lake exit off the I17. The last time we took a route that took us towards Happy Jack.

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99 2DR TAHOE-gone but not forgotten

&quot;[b:2lxt838a]BAD GAS MILEAGE GETS YOU TO SOME OF THE GREATEST PLACES ON EARTH[/b:2lxt838a]

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5 years 4 months ago #6840 by RovnAZ
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What we (AZLRO) is calling Cedar Flats Trail is actually a number of trails linked together to get from Camp Verde to Stoneman Lake and includes the Cedar Flats trail covered in AZ Backroads. There are only a few spots that even approach technical, but nothing a stock LR can't handle. However, if there has been a bunch of rain in the area prior to going up, there will be a lot of mud and it is sticky and very slick clay. So if you don't have tires more aggressive than street tread, be prepared to get stuck <!-- s:headbang: --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_smiley_headbang.gif" alt=":headbang:" title="headbang" /><!-- s:headbang: -->

Once one get up on the Rim (north of the ranch lands), there are a huge number of Forest Roads that branch out and lead to tons of primitive camping possibilities (don't forget to check on fire restrictions). Not sure of established camp sites in the area though. If one stays on the planned trail you end up on Stoneman Lake Road and come back via I-17. As Mateo mentioned, last trip up we deviated off the planned trail for exploration and ended up in Happy Jack on Hw87; had an absolute blast in the rain.

Unfortunately we can't camp Saturday night if we make it for the trip at all.

Rob

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2004 Discovery II (Dead)
1997 Tahoe
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5 years 4 months ago #6850 by AZRVR
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Looks like I am out on this one :( I need to replace the rear half-shafts on my rover. I'm getting around ok at the moment but would hate to have trouble on the trail. Searching for a new pair now and debating on whether to spend the $ on a pair of hd ashcroft upgrades. Hopefully I can catch the next one. Be sure to take some pics! Sounds like it's going to be a fun run.

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5 years 4 months ago #6854 by RovnAZ
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Have you checked with Chad Manz about half-shafts out of the 2 parts trucks he has? That might be a quick option short term, if he still has the shafts.

HD shafts are a good consideration, but you should ask yourself how are you going to wheel the truck before you spend the extra money unnecessarily. If you are leaving it stock and running light trails, i.e. forest or light unimproved roads, then they aren't really needed. As you add mods, like larger rubber and traction control in the 3rd member (limited slip or locker), and plan to run more technically difficult trails, than stock axle shafts get closer and closer to the weakest link in the drive line and more consideration should be given to the HD shafts or at least carrying a set of spare stock shafts. My $.02....

Rob

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2004 Discovery II (Dead)
1997 Tahoe
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- Rob Woodward

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5 years 4 months ago #6855 by Red October
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Sorry to hear you can't make it. By the looks of the clouds right now,looks like a pretty good chance to see some mud <!-- s:headbang: --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_smiley_headbang.gif" alt=":headbang:" title="headbang" /><!-- s:headbang: -->

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5 years 4 months ago #6856 by RovnAZ
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Looking at weather radar up in that area and they're definitely seeing rain now, just not sure how much. Forecast is thunderstorms in Camp Verde this evening.

Got my fingers crossed....looking pretty good that I'll make this trip.

Rob

1984 90
2004 Discovery II (Dead)
1997 Tahoe
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5 years 4 months ago #6857 by RovnAZ
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I'm in for tomorrow, should be fun. Based on the weather that went thru that area today, could be very muddy :mrgreen:

Who else is going? What radio channels we using i.e. CB, Ham, FRS?

Rob

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2004 Discovery II (Dead)
1997 Tahoe
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5 years 3 months ago #6858 by AZRVR
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Hope the run a was a blast, still bummed that I missed it. I bit the bullet and ordered a pair of Ashcroft HD half-shafts. As time goes on and money allows I'm hoping to build the rover up to run tougher more technical trails. They should arrive sometime this week and I hope to have them installed by the end of next week. If anybody took pictures I'd love to see them.

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5 years 3 months ago #6860 by le1gf
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So how did it go? Mud? Elk? Tower? I'm jealous that you guys ran the trail again and I was stuck at work...

Glenn Onodera
'97 Rover P38 3&quot; Coil Spring Conversion, Front Lockrite, Rear TC
'88 Classic Stock

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5 years 3 months ago #6861 by Red October
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Two mud puddles. When it rained, it must have soaked up all the water pretty fast. There were mud ruts, but dry ones.
No wild life other than a hawk and jack rabbit.
The two creeks were dry.
But the firewatch tower was open and we got to see how they call in smoke. Very nice man up in the tower with an amazing view. I'll post pics mid week. The views made up for the lack of mud.
On the way out, there's a play hill area and we took a couple of turns making it up.

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&quot;[b:2lxt838a]BAD GAS MILEAGE GETS YOU TO SOME OF THE GREATEST PLACES ON EARTH[/b:2lxt838a]

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